Someone mentioned the West's Historic CO2 bills - saying if you go back to 1750 the industrial revolution increased CO2 emissions - and used a graphic to show that from 1750 to the Present the US had contributed 25% of the world's emissions, and China only 13 %. Seems like a valid point.
However...
If you look at the raw data for China from the very graphic posted - you will see China is attributed with ZERO emissions until 1900 - do you think that is true of the most populous country in the world? They consumed no energy until then?
By Contrast, that data set goes back to 1785 for North America ... an extra 115 YEARS of record data... so the long-term historical data is skewed by whether any data was recorded. Europe and North America instituted central government and recording earlier, not recording data in Asia does not mean it didn't have emissions.
Have a ponder on this:
In the 11th century, the iron produced in north China was smelted in coke-burning blast-furnaces. Deforestation in that zone forced to turn to the use of coke, mushrooming ironworking centers along the Henan-Hebei border. Accounts of that period estimate that at least 140 000 tons of coal a year were used by the iron industry in that zone alone - Coal was also used for heating and cooking.
Deforestation - Coal-burning - I thought those were recent sins!
The Vikings deforested Greenland in 1000 AD- maybe we should blame them too!
Go back to the 11th Century for historic CO2 bills - North America was almost unpopulated.
China - Song Dynasty 10th Century 25% of the world population
Ming Dynasty 15th Century 24 % of the world population
By 1800 - China (Qing Empire) represented 30% of the planet's one billion people, while the USA represented 0.5%. How do you think that impacted their relative contributions to global CO2? That is a lot of huts to keep warm !!
Who has the greatest historical global CO2 debt? Does it even matter? Does anyone consider science any more - or is it all rhetoric?
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